In this week's episode, Sara and Rosalinda get into the meat of Whitney's 20s party. They go over Jen's Mary induced meltdown and look at the only bright spot of the evening (hint: it involves food). Moreover, they breakdown Jen's "grandpa MFer" comment and how it might not only apply to just Mary. They then dive into Meredith's relationship with Lisa to find that Lisa's heart grew three times in size. Next, they try to understand Jen and her obsession with snacks (and betrayal...) along with pleading with Fate to save Heather's children from her green bean casserole. Finally, the duo finally talks about the namesake of the podcast - the MET Gala Luncheon!
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In this week's episode, Sara and Rosalinda get into the meat of Whitney's 20s party. They go over Jen's Mary induced meltdown and look at the only bright spot of the evening (hint: it involves food). Moreover, they breakdown Jen's "grandpa MFer" comment and how it might not only apply to just Mary. They then dive into Meredith's relationship with Lisa to find that Lisa's heart grew three times in size. Next, they try to understand Jen and her obsession with snacks (and betrayal...) along with pleading with Fate to save Heather's children from her green bean casserole. Finally, the duo finally talks about the namesake of the podcast - the MET Gala Luncheon!
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Hey guys! Welcome back to MET Gala Luncheon, I'm your host Sara Van Tuerenhout and I'm joined by:
Rosalinda Mendez:Rosalinda!
Sara Van Tuerenhout:And this is the podcast where we break down our favorite reality TV shows, and dive into the craziness that ensues. This week, we're on Episode Four of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City,"Roaring Emotions."
Rosalinda Mendez:Can't believe are already here.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I know. Of another two parter.
Rosalinda Mendez:Exactly. So kind of a four parter...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Really, it kind of is at some point, they just got to stop.
Rosalinda Mendez:I know, it's kind of like everyone is like...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* I'm tired...
Rosalinda Mendez:....To be continued....Can you just finish something already?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Uh, yeah, really...Well, anyways, we are on the second part of the 20s party, because you know, we just got a little taste of it last week, and we see kind of a showdown between Meredith and Jen.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, this is one where it was really pretty forced. Because, honestly, I will have to, again, be on Meredith's side and not on Jen's side because it was somebody's party, and as we will quickly dive into the ultimate canon of housewives, "this was neither the time nor the place for this argument."
Sara Van Tuerenhout:And like, it really was all or nothing, because Jen just walked in the door angry. She saw Meredith from across the room and just blew a gasket.
Rosalinda Mendez:She's like,"oh, my god, they're sitting together." This is like definite Middle School. Like I can't believe she's eating lunch with them.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I know, I can't believe she's being nice to someone also on the cast, and they're having casual conversation about clothes, and so this is clearly a stab in the back.
Rosalinda Mendez:I know, it's all about me and how I'm not being respected.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, and then like she stormed off... I can't remember who she went to go talk to, but she went to go talk to one of the other ladies, and was like really pissing on being a Switzerland friend. I think it was like Heather or something. Because, you know, Heather's kind of the sounding board for all these crazy ladies, and so she was just like, "oh, if you're a Switzerland friend, that means you're not a real friend."
Rosalinda Mendez:So yeah, I don't understand why this had to be like everybody taking their sides, and you know, basically, you know, pistols at dawn, if you're not with me.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, exactly. I truly have no words.
Rosalinda Mendez:And Jen was just...she was hot on everything. Like she immediately went also into the "Why can't you have a sleep over with me?"
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, I mean, cuz that was like the main crux of the issue was that Meredith had canceled their sleep over after this party, because well, as we talked about last episode, Brooks has taken over her social life and said, No, this isn't happening. But regardless that the sleep over was canceled, and Jen thinks that this has to do something with Mary and how Meredith is now making friends with Mary. So that's why she canceled the sleep over. Because God forbid her child actually wants to hang out with her.
Rosalinda Mendez:Well, yeah. And basically what she said to her, her daughter was going away, like Brooks fine. He's there all the time. But her daughter was actually going to go leave the next day, like your a mother, Jen, do you not get it? Like, you might want to spend some time with your child, and she's like, well it's almost like, "she'll always have them." It's like, Yeah, but you kind of live in the same town. It's not the same. It's your kid. So you know, that should have been the end of the conversation. Like if someone said to me, like they wanted to do something, and it was, for example, your last day in town, I'd be like, no, it says last day, we can do it some other day.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Exactly. And like my thing, though, you see her get mad, and then she kind of cools off a bit as much as Jen can cool off and goes to the table where the ladies are sitting at and asked to pull Meredith aside, and was pretty much like, "why are you talking to Mary?" "Why are you with her?" "You really want to be friends with her?" Like why like"that is such a dumb idea because she f****ed her grandpa.
Rosalinda Mendez:I know she called her a grandpa f***er, I think.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. A grandpa MFer...
Rosalinda Mendez:*interjects* Mfr. Yeah.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:....As Mary says.
Rosalinda Mendez:Which is just it's just so rude.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:It really is. It was just very loud and uncalled for, and for the many faults Mary has, because she does have them, that feels like a low blow.
Rosalinda Mendez:It is because this is talking about her personal relationship with her husband, and again, she has a child with this person. It's her husband...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* unfortunately....
Rosalinda Mendez:...And it's I mean, and they're not related, I mean, in any way, they're not blood related. So it's not that weird. But yeah, it's just it's it's pretty low. But the fact that you know, this is a party where everybody's supposed to be having fun. It's supposed to be light. It's supposed to be airy to choose this location, and she was amazing, because of course, she's in her madam dress, right? And she goes off and she slips off to that table where people have to come to her because she's holding court and she's giving them an audience to you know, and she's kind of, you know, airing her grievances, and it's just it to me it's just ridiculous because it's basically the world revolves around me and anyone who's friends with someone who might have offended me just can you know pound sand.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah because she's like "don't you see a conflict with being friends with me [Jen] and with Mary" because somehow those are two mutually exclusive things.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah it's crazy, but I will have to say, the other great thing about this entire you know, back and forth and everything is we found out who in the cast has real priorities at this point
Sara Van Tuerenhout:True. True. Because two of the ladies I believe Lisa first and Whitney later went to go comfort Jen while she's kind of having this massive freakout and Heather, as we find out she is all of us at a party. They were serving food, some lollipop drumsticks, some burgers, you know, some good stuff, and she was debating whether to go comfort, Jen, and whether she should leave her food.
Rosalinda Mendez:Well, at first she was like she was looking around her like where the lollipop drumsticks, and she left after they came because you want to make sure she didn't miss 'em.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:And then she asked when she went to go comfort Jen, because out of fear, they were like, "if I don't comfort, Jen, she might get mad at me. So for my own survival, I'll go like check in on her," and so then she said,"oh, watch out for my lollipop drumsticks make sure no one takes them," and that's honestly me at a party. Like, I want the food.
Rosalinda Mendez:Hey, if the food's poppin, and it's good, and you have some friend that's acting like they're five. You know, you have to get your priorities straight. Yes, you take care of your friend. But you also need to take care of yourself because you know, good friendship means you should do some self care and self care are lollipop drumsticks and burgers. I'm all about it.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Because I mean, as we know, food is love.
Rosalinda Mendez:It is love. So anyway, but we also, we also see them trying to say to her, "hey, settle down. This is not as big as you think it might be. And you're making a big scene."
Sara Van Tuerenhout:She made a huge scene, you see this montage of the rest of the party and all of the people are just staring at her - Jen. Just very confused because it really seems out of left field if you don't have the context of "it smells like hospital," her getting mad at Mary, and then her...
Rosalinda Mendez:*interjects* Or the sleep over.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, the sleep over controversy. So like her walking in and just seeing Meredith talk to Mary really doesn't seem like a cause for this scale of a blow up.
Rosalinda Mendez:I just love that this party had a master of ceremonies, and the entire time he's like, "everybody's having a great time right? This is all wonderful! Yeah, we are partying down" and you're like, there's just the sulking monster in...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* Yeah, no. I mean, I could feel the tension through the TV screen. Like I wanted to get out of that party.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, it was really crazy. But yeah, I guess and the thing is, finally, thank you, Heather. I guess in some ways, she finally figured out we need to call coach Shah. We need to get her out of here because this is going nowhere fast, and it just keeps getting worse and worse. And she's not going to be comforted by anyone.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:No, and she finally gets coach shah on the phone. He comes to pick her up, and it was kind of funny how Heather signaled him down because she was like, "oh, I'm the flapper with the cankles."
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, that was funny.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:It's like, she's so self aware, and I love it, and no, I thought that was a great scene.
Rosalinda Mendez:No, it was good. It's what a friend should do. Like if they know you, they should make sure they get you out of a situation where I mean it was it was going from bad to worse, and the sad thing is, is I know that they're never supposed to breach the fourth wall. But you're acting like this and people are filming you.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I know.
Rosalinda Mendez:Like again, Heather has perfect self awareness. Jen has zero self awareness.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. And I mean, clearly there's more stuff going down. I mean, we learn that later, her dad had passed away a year ago. So like she's coming up on the anniversary of her dad's death and like clearly there's some underlying issues there. But ya no, Heather did a good thing and got her home
Rosalinda Mendez:And we find out something shocking about Heather.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I know. I-
Rosalinda Mendez:Which no one's picked up quite yet.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yes! I was just gonna say I- no one is talking about this. Everyone's just gloss over this. Heather let it slip that she f***ed a g andpa. Because after Jen said, " h, well, Mary is a grandpa otherf***er." Heather was like,"well, I f***ed the grandpa. I ont see the big deal. And I- o... no one has talked about it. I am intrigued, what's the sto y behind it? Who's the grandpa? Is it closely related? Are they elated at all? How did they eet? Why did she
Rosalinda Mendez:Well, the way that I look at it. I was thinking about this more, and honestly, Heather's her dating pool is the Mormons. The Mormons tend to get married really young. Heather is my age. I know that I have many friends my age who got married right after high school, who are grandparents and I hate to say some of them are great grandparents. But....
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* No way...
Rosalinda Mendez:...they are. Yeah, it happens.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:You're not getting any grandchildren anytime soon...
Rosalinda Mendez:Well thank you. Please keep that promise. That's my Christmas gift, anyway. Yeah, no. So I think that it's not unusual that that would have happened, and it probably isn't anybody who is older, they're probably in their 50s or 60s. So I don't I don't I don't find it too scandalous. But I just think it's funny that she said it, and no one said anything.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, literally, there is no, yeah, no one's talking about it. There should be some deep dive research. I want to hear more about this.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, exactly. I just think it's the dating pool in Salt Lake City. But anyway, from there, I guess. We move on to...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* A more chilled out scene.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah. What we've been waiting for - girls. Just a few girls together.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* Well, just two girls...
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah. Because again, yeah.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:They only do things in groups of two or a whole group.
Rosalinda Mendez:Exactly. So you know, so two girls together at a at an art gallery, which...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I you know, struggled to call art.
Rosalinda Mendez:It was a very strange place. I mean, obviously, everyone has their tastes. So I'm not trying to taste shame anybody.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. Let us know in the comments, what y'all thought of that art gallery? Because is it... Are we just being pretentious? Or are we you know, on the head with that one?
Rosalinda Mendez:Again, I'm thinking, you know, if this doesn't pan out. Maybe we started an art gallery in Salt Lake City.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I mean, yeah, I can't paint or draw for sh*t. But maybe I could make some money there.
Rosalinda Mendez:Possibly. Anyway, so yeah, it is a lot quieter, and it's a chance for Meredith to tell her twin Lisa.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I know. I know, as much as thet say that they're twins. In these past three episodes, we haven't really seen a lot of one on one time between Heather and oh sorry, Meredith and Lisa, and so it was kind of nice to see their bond, I guess. Because Meredith mentioned that she sees Lisa kind of like a Yeah, like family, and so she took Lisa to the art gallery, one, to get more art for her home, because they kind of just moved in, but also to you know, let her know that her and Seth are getting a separation.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah. And it was amazing how and it just shows, sometimes when you're really close, especially when families are close how hard that is, and, you know, it was nice of- in some ways of Lisa to be asking about both of them and how they're both doing and understanding that her... not her loyalties, but that she's she's there for Meredith
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. And I mean, honestly, that kind of surprised me because my initial impression of Lisa as this like vapid, self absorbed person who only really cares about herself and associating herself with perfect people, because she's all like, I'm the perfect Mormon, and like, really values religion, which is fine, but that doesn't always necessarily lend itself to being nice when people are struggling in things like a relationship or a marriage. So she Yeah, she was very kind and understanding, and I totally get why Meredith kind of hesitated on telling Lisa, especially given that she feels that Lisa so close to her and her family, because I mean, just like personally, I always find it, it's much harder to tell people personal things when you're closer to them than a more casual acquaintance.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I know, and I think as well, she probably was like, you know, we have not only our spouses that are probably friends, but then friends of friends, you know, get into the bigger groups, and sometimes when you're working this out again, you know, it doesn't necessarily feel good when you're struggling with a relationship to then bring that out to your friends. Because you don't want to force them to choose you also, are trying to work it out. You don't know what's going on either. You don't want your partner's business out there. You don't want to make it seem like you're making anybody choose. So yeah, I thought it was very, very good conversation. I thought it was very sweet, and she did pick out something monochrome for her bedroom so that was good.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, she picked out some art for her bedroom, which we will see later, I'm sure.
Rosalinda Mendez:So from there, we move on...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:To Mary's house. Because, you know, what episode would it'd be without a little marry action.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, it's like I don't know Versailles meets... I have no idea how to describe her house.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:It's just very gaudy. But it's very Mary.
Rosalinda Mendez:It is it totally fits her personality.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Even though Lisa doesn't agree. Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:I'm about it.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah,
Rosalinda Mendez:I'm like, I think that Mary at least is incredibly consistent. She has a style. She picked Elaine. It's early Donald Trump. I think, something like that...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, no, I think it's a nice house. I mean, I wouldn't be complaining if I had a house that size either. So....
Rosalinda Mendez:No, and it's it's I don't know, I don't know if he would say it's disjointed or not. But I think it's it really reflects Mary and that's probably the... all we need to say there. But you know, then we kind of see this friendship between Lisa and Mary,
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Which I didn't actually really see them as a pairing because thus far we haven't seen them really interact. So when we move from Lisa and Meredith's relationship to Lisa and Mary's relationship, it just kind of felt like a 180. Like these two women seem like polar opposite ends of the spectrum.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I was really interested in the juxtaposition of that... of those two scenes. That we go from this quiet thing between two people who have obviously been friends for a long time. To then Lisa and Mary.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, cuz like we haven't gotten any background on them. Because like the other women, we, we know that Mary and Whitney have known each other for a bit, and then Whitney and Heather are cousins, and then Meredith and Jen met two years ago, and Meredith and Lisa met a couple years ago as well. But there's no background on Mary and Lisa.
Rosalinda Mendez:Right. So this is the first time we see it. But we also know that they are people who have children. So they have that in common.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:And it seems that Lisa is very much into fashion, like Mary is as well.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Questionable fashion yes...
Rosalinda Mendez:*simultaneously* But but fashion nonetheless. Exactly.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. But we get another cameo of Robert Jr.
Rosalinda Mendez:Right, and this is where I guess, you know, part of the idea, we figure out the thing about fashion because Robert Jr. is talking about his girlfriend.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, and they're talking about, yeah, his girlfriend and what gifts he had, he has given her and one of them includes a Prada purse. Which you know, he didn't buy with his own money.
Unknown:And you can tell again, how much Mary does not like this girlfriend.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:No. I mean, partly, I think she's just jealous because he didn't buy her a Prada purse.
Rosalinda Mendez:I know. I just love the fact that she said that the relationship would last- last less than the Prada purse.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I know. And like the fact that he's also
Rosalinda Mendez:I don't know. It just shows that sometimes given her a dog and a chinchilla. What is she going to do with all these animals? Run a zoo? I-? What what type of lifestyle is he anticipating wi h his girlfriend? people have way too much money and...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* And they should give it to me or us.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, yeah that's right. But yeah, I don't I don't know. So it was interesting that yeah, I don't I can't imagine my high school boyfriend giving me a Prada purse.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:No...
Rosalinda Mendez:I can't even remember anything my high school boyfriend gave me that was...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* That expensive?
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I mean, I think I mean, I'm pretty sure that I probably got like an ID bracelet or something.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Ooh, fancy.
Rosalinda Mendez:Engraved things remembered in the mall. But that was about as great is that got...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. I just-- rich people live such different lives and the rest of us...
Rosalinda Mendez:F. Scott Fitzgerald was right. "The rich, they are different from us."
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. But at this get together of Lisa and Mary, we get the creation of our namesake, the Met Gala luncheon.
Rosalinda Mendez:This is where it was born people.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:This is where it was born!
Rosalinda Mendez:In Mary Cosby's kitchen.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yep. This is where our life started. Who would have thought Mary Cosby would have such an effect on our life?
Rosalinda Mendez:I know we wouldn't be here if it weren't for the entire inception of the Met Gala luncheon concept.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Which is just crazy. Because what is a Met Gala themed luncheon? Because the Met Gala HAS themes. It's not A theme. It's a location. It's an it's an event,
Rosalinda Mendez:Right! And it's definitely not a luncheon. They have like it's at night. Literally. It has no luncheon involved with it, and it is very red carpet, which I think it just means fancy. It means fancy, and it's in New York. But I don't know. I'm not sure why these women are so obsessed. But they seem to be mega obsessed with the Met Gala with the Met Gala in general.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, because this is now the second Met Gala themed party. So as you can probably tell, this is why it's our inspiration for this podcast. Because just like the Met Gala luncheon, like Mary hosted, it's just a mishmash of things we like to talk about. Doesn't make much sense. But it's a lot of fun.
Rosalinda Mendez:Exactly. So but we'll have to admit that we're not dressed up fancy.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:No, we're in our pajamas right now. You know, trs fancy.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yes. For our French listener out there we are trs fancy..
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Bonjour!
Rosalinda Mendez:Anyway, so yeah. So this is the inception of the Met Gala luncheon.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Where they're going to air out, you know, the differences between the girls.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, my, the interesting thing is, is that in several Housewives franchises, you have someone who is like Mary, who's just like, you know, we need to have a lunch where we just get together...this happens a lot on Atlanta, where they collect bones, or you have to say something about somebody. So this is just kind of going a little bit farther with that whole concept, where you get together for lunch, and everyone has to talk about what the problems are, and just put it out there.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I just don't think this needs to be done in a group format. Because like a lot of the problems with these girls are that it's like one on one problems and not a group dynamic problem. Although I guess you could say, Jen and Mary's relationship affects the group dynamic for sure. But it's not like one part of the cast is against the other part of the cast kind of similar to I believe New York when they did blondes v. brunettes, but I think, yeah, all of these issues need to be aired out one-on-one, not a whole group, you know..
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, none, none of this bodes well. I don't I really think that, you know, when you hear them planning it and Mary's intentions for it. It just doesn't sound like it's gonna, it's gonna be one of those fun lady like lunches. Like the ladies who lunch in New York where everyone's just talking about light conversation and you know, what they're doing over the summer in the Hamptons.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, because I don't know about you. But like when I'm at lunch, I'm not trying to do anything too heavy. I still got the rest of the day. I don't want to have my midday be like, super heavy.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, it's a little bit ominous. So you know, I guess. Stay tuned. We're gonna find out more how this Met Gala luncheon goes...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. But from there from Lisa's ecstatic approval of the MET Gala luncheon, we move to Heather and Jen who are not so surprising of friends, because we see them at the beginning of the first episode together. But we see Jen kind of express why she acted the way she did at Whitney's 20s party, and we need to know a little bit more about her and her relationship with Heather.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I think the thing is, is that if you're going to go in with a mood, maybe you just shouldn't go. Or if you are you need to be self aware enough to know to kind of compartmentalize it, and put it somewhere else. But she came in hot to that to that party. So now I just feel like this is all kind of like, how do I make myself look not that bad? I'm going to talk about all the things that are bothering me which are legitimate and right. But at this point her talking to Heather seems like she's just trying to cover her ass.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Oh, for sure, and I mean, definitely didn't help that she came to Whitney's party super drunk. Which never you know, it's never good when you go into a party super drunk. It's it's only gonna end bad.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, Jen's not a happy fun drunk.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:No, but, you know, at least to this gathering, she didn't bring alcohol he brought snacks. Because what would Jen be without her snacks at all times? Because we get that glorious montage by Bravo where we see her getting snacks before pretty much every event and then she even had snacks in her fanny pack when they went skiing, which honestly is a fat mood. If I was going to ski I would do that too.
Rosalinda Mendez:True. Maybe she's diabetic. Maybe she needs snacks.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I don't know. I mean, a woman can just love food, too.
Rosalinda Mendez:That's true.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:But yeah, then so while they're talking and we this is where we find out that Jen is coming up on her father's one year anniversary of passing away, which, you know, is a tough time for sure. But kind of moving from that heavier subject we see Heather making dinner for her children, which caused us to raise our eyebrows as Texans.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, it could be just because I'm a Texan, but green bean casserole. That's something you actually have as a side....
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* Like on Thanksgiving too.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, and it's like a It's a special side.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:It's it's not even that good. I mean, I'm biased. We're both biased because we both don't like green beans. But jokingly, someone needs to call CPS on her poor kids having to eat...
Rosalinda Mendez:*interjects* They need protein!
Sara Van Tuerenhout:It's just so sad... Like, green bean casserole? You're gonna put all this effort in cooking and what you're cooking is green bean casserole like.... Heather's kids, if you're listening, I can ship you some food.
Rosalinda Mendez:Let us know, we can get you some Omaha Steaks in the mail
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Blink three times if you're being held hostage...
Rosalinda Mendez:Exactly. Anyway, so yes, that's our Texan thing. But actually we do. But all kidding aside, when we talk about when Jen is talking about her dad's funeral, she's talking about how sad she is that Sharrieff couldn't come because he had a football game, which is understandable. I'm sure the coach can't leave. But I don't know that the assistant coach couldn't be head coach for one game unless it was THE game of the season.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I thought that was... I'm sure there had to have been some way, and at some point, I mean, I get that. I don't even know if he's the head coach, actually.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I don't know, either. So like part of me is also, you know, most I know that he would have to travel with the team or something would happen. But I would think that, you know, most funerals don't happen on a Saturday. So maybe, which is when he probably would have had to play. If they'd had it during the week. If they could have, you know, done that, which is when most funerals happen. They could have he could have maybe, you know, flown out late Friday night and been with the team but not maybe been there for practices before. I
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* This may have been like the don't know, but... impetus for her eight... or the Shah squad because she's always being left alone.
Rosalinda Mendez:It could be and she says that she has what she could have a face- face time marriage.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:So the thing is, it's not clear that you know, whether coach Shah's around a lot, which I think makes her lonely and gives her too much time on her hands honestly.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I think that also makes her perceived, emphasis on perceived, friendship betrayals hurt even more because she doesn't have like people back at home to rely on.
Rosalinda Mendez:I know, which is why she seems to be blowing up her friendship with Meredith. I mean, basically, the slights that Meredith has done is, you know, she she was talking to Mary, just talking to Mary at a party...*interjects* Talking about her necklace. So you know, really deep...hit...hard hitting conversations with Meredith or with Mary.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:And then she refused to have a sleep over on the day before her daughter left. Yeah, and she explained why she couldn't go, and then when Jen asked point blank, like, "why wouldn't you let me have a sleep over?" Meredith was kind of trying to spare her the embarrassment of like, you embarrass yourself in front of my kids, and they didn't feel comfortable with you coming over. She didn't want to say that in public. But then Jen had no problem airing out Mary's dirty laundry, about being a grandpa motherf***er, and it's just you see no tact really, because then now these perceived slights because all of these are really "grave." She then tells Heather about Meredith's separation that Meredith told Jen in confidence, when like, I think she was one of the first people she told about this separation even before... well, we know before Lisa.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, and to me, that was just again, being spiteful. She was just being spiteful, because literally, you know, if you were friends, and someone entrusted you with that information. That is not your story to tell. That is not yours to just go around talking to other people about, and then she's kind of like, "well, she betrayed me by not having a sleep over. So I'm going to tell you about her personal marital issues."
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, and my whole thing with this blow up, I guess and betrayal is that it doesn't matter what a friend has done to you. Even if it was a betrayal. Meredith said those things when y'all were still friends. So if that person was ever really a true friend of yours, you wouldn't use that information against them to hurt them. So clearly, Jen really never saw Meredith as a friend because no friend would do that to another person.
Rosalinda Mendez:No, she really is one of these people who's a tit for tat kind of person and mean, whatever she perceives to be a slight against her. I need to even the score up with her, which is just really sad.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:The poor women probably have to live in fear, like, oh, if we betrayed Shah, then who knows what she'll unleash about us,
Rosalinda Mendez:Right. So from there, we finally get to the main event...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*Sing Song* bump, bump, bump...
Rosalinda Mendez:The MET Gala luncheon. But before that, we get to see all the ladies trying to figure out what the heck this theme mean.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yes. We have Whitney who so aptly puts along with Heather, this is a Met Gala luncheon ,with cocktail attire, midday, in downtown Salt Lake City. It's just like, all very confusing. Honestly, I don't even know what I would wear. Because I get confused with a business casual. Like, what does that mean? So I definitely wouldn't have been able to decode this attire...
Rosalinda Mendez:This MET Gala luncheon attire...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:No...
Rosalinda Mendez:But yeah, it was funny. I was trying to see like, who would have fit any of the parameters of Met Gala luncheon, and like, literally, if you're like one of the main kind of, I guess stars or somebody who's actually attending the Met Gala, or like you're a supermodel. I mean, you're gonna wear couture stuff, one of a kind. That looks amazing and is over the top. I mean, that's why it's couture. I mean, I like their stuff. Some of it was vintage, maybe Mary's stuff was runway, but I don't think that any of it was like haute couture, like...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:No, I mean, I was honestly kind of disappointed with Mary's outfit, because we see her preparing for the MET Gala luncheon, and we'll talk about that in a second because there's a lot to unpack with just the preparation of this crazy affair. But what she was wearing, I thought she was like, Oh, this is just for her to set up and then she was going to go back home and change. But it was actually very casual considering that Mary has an extensive closet where she's boasting that she has all of these vintage Versace and Gucci and Prada and things so you w uld think she would have the a tire to fit this occasion.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, in some cases. I mean, when you saw them coming up looks like they they were dressed for prom or actually homecoming not even prom when they got out of the car/ Although it's, yeah, it's really it was really kind of interesting just to see what they all chose. I mean all the ladies look good let me just put it that way. They were on point Nobody looked...Nobody looked bad I'm just saying...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* But I think they were they were set up to fail because no one can get that attire right because it doesn't exist. What is a lunchtime cocktail attire Met Gala theme? I don't know...
Rosalinda Mendez:Too many things. Too many things. So but before everyone arrives at this amazing Met Gala luncheon, which is at a really nice Italian restaurant in Salt Lake City. Mary is having the table set up and it's quite beautiful, but I wasn't sure where any plates we're gonna go for food because
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, I mean she had all of this like really expensive swag, including Louis Vuitton earbuds which I didn't even know they made, and if you were wondering because I was, you don't have to do the research, I'll tell you it-- they are $1,190 for probably sub quality audio. It's just again, rich people having too much money and not knowing what to spend it on. But yeah, she has also a Versailles pen, monogramed journals, and some other things. So you can't even see the plates or even where they would eat. There's just like a ton of stuff. So clearly, Mary has put a lot of money into this. But while they were setting up and putting out the expensive swag, one of the her assistants accidentally put the journal upside down, and then she [Mary] was just going off on them saying, "this is such a huge mistake! Like can you even read?"
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, It's upside down. You can't... Yeah, do you read? And she was just being very, very rude. She's very dismissive. She's very rude. And, you know, they're trying to do their best. I mean, I don't know. You know, the Met Gala is a lot of pressure.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I know. And they're doing this in probably like an hour, and also they had to set up beta fish ponds. Like why, in what way is that appetizing to see an aquarium like six aquariums pretty much on a table while I'm eating. Like, what if the fish jumps out onto my plate? It just I- dont.. I don't see the logic in this. Yeah. But like they went to Party City and
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, it was very, very strange. So you know, and then when the ladies arrive, it's very funny. They have I don't know if it looks is supposed to look like FAO Schwarz outside or something. It's kind of Christmasy. So they have the it looks like the guards from FAO Schwarz. They're the beef eater got their outfit. Yeah, they're the Party City Beefeaters because it almost looked like they had Marge Simpson hair. Because they weren't real like hats. They were made of felt. So they were drooping whenever they would take someone out of the car...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:And then their actual vest, I guess you could say look like plastic film. None of it looked professional or nice. It just felt very chintzy to me, and if you're going to dish out all this money, you couldn't afford at least like a cotton vest?
Rosalinda Mendez:Exactly. Although I will have to say Whitney was incredibly impressed by the red carpet.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, she was I mean, I think she really just leaned into it because it's so Mary. It really is. It's just a mishmash of things and just kind of crazy and over the top, and so Heather *Whitney* was all about it, and honestly, I don't know, I feel like I could be about it too. Because you're just at that point, you're in for the craziness. You're in for the experience. You're ready to see what's gonna happen.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, it you know, and and then they walked in and they looked at all the swag, and they were like, whoa, this is this is worth it. It's worth like spending whatever time we have to with crazy with crazy Mary to like, be walking away with all this cool swag.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I know. Like, I wish I got some of that swag.
Rosalinda Mendez:I know. That was really funny. But then, you know, they they sit down and again, you know, it's not very clear. Like, Jen's trying to not be confrontational. She's actually trying just to...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* Be nice.
Rosalinda Mendez:....Be nice, and pick up the swag and go.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Well kind of, yeah. I mean, she's there to try to just like be nice mend fences, because, again, whether we want to admit it or not, these women are all on the same TV show. It's produced. They have to be friends. They have to do things together. So you might as well mend fences, and uh, it's just very awkward.
Rosalinda Mendez:Or at least be cordial...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:At least..., exactly, at least be cordial. But you definitely see this tension between Jen and Meredith and Mary and Jen. Because those are the two women she [Jen] has slighted really, but the whole idea and premise of this luncheon is that they're going to mend fences, be nice, get everything out on the table, and so Mary has this idea for them to write down like something they don't like about themselves or what was that?
Rosalinda Mendez:It was what their weakness was.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:What they felt they needed to work on.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:And then of course, like for so we go around like Mary starts first, and honestly, I don't really remember what she said. She said something about like being too sensitive. I don't even know...
Rosalinda Mendez:So Mary's weakness was something and again You're right. I don't remember exactly what she said.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, but then we get to Lisa who again we we have so many biases against this woman, but please sponsor us VIDA tequila. We will...
Rosalinda Mendez:*interjects* Change our tune!
Sara Van Tuerenhout:We can change our dude with a few bottles. But anyway, we're not expensive. But yeah, she goes around and says her weakness is being you know, she like that she tries too hard that she like devotes herself too much to her businesses. Which is pretty much like a non answer. It's like what newbies give as their weakness question like answer to like a job interview
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah it sounds like they she didn't do like the job interview thing you're supposed to do, which is kind of do the roleplay with somebody you know...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:This is like one of those things like if you did that they'd be like, "don't do that interview. It's not the right answer."
Sara Van Tuerenhout:No..
Rosalinda Mendez:No, it's not getting you the job...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:No one wants to hear about how, you know, you're a perfectionist. You try to get everything to right or something. It's just annoying. But yeah, unsurprising from Lisa.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, and then we start to actually we start to get people who actually start to open up. So Jen starts to open up a little bit about her being Tongan, and about how that has affected her, since she's been in Salt Lake City, because she came at a very early age. So the perception of her in a predominantly white culture was just like, okay, you're not white, then you must be black, and so that was the identity and what did she had to kind of deal with, and so she wasn't able to necessarily celebrate her culture or talk about her culture, because people were just looking at her one way, and it caused her a lot of pain.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, and I think this was a point she was trying to emphasize to Mary and that they could sympathize. As both...Mary is black, and Jen is perceived as black. So they could have kind of some common ground on what it's like to live in Salt Lake City as a person of color, and that kind of like really fails because well, one Mary is the one that forced Jen to speak up and say something, even though the whole point of this exercise was to have them write stuff down, and then when it was Jen's turn to go, she's like, Oh, no, no, just say it out loud, and she sets up this rule where no one can interrupt or talk back, while...
Rosalinda Mendez:*interjects* Mary is setting up the rule.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yes, Mary is setting up this rule that no one can talk back or interrupt someone's proclamation if you want to say, but that's when we start getting into some fights. Because Mary is now mad because in Jen's, while she's talking about how she grew up in that, in the Tongan culture, the first child is kind of responsible for everything, and it's like she feels a lot of pressure to keep up with her family, and I guess her business (we still don't know what she does.). But that's why she kind of lashed out at Meredith, and so she apologized to Meredith. But she does not apologize to Mary for calling her grandpa MFer in front of 30 plus people at Whitney's 20w Party, which is kind of where it leaves off.
Rosalinda Mendez:And we are left again...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects*with a two parter because there's just not enough to be continued in this show....
Rosalinda Mendez:Exactly. I mean, this is, at this point, you just gotta quit that, like, I don't know, did they have like the guy in the titling department get like a raise, and so he gets to title everything at the end. Like??
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I have no clue because, honestly, I--
Rosalinda Mendez:*interjects* To be continued...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, I think Bravo's having this idea that maybe because of COVID. We're all saturated with things to watch, and our favorite women aren't back yet, you know, the other major franchises, and this is a new one. So they want to keep people on the line on the hook, and so they're like, Oh, well, if we keep doing To be continued episodes, they'll be forced to watch the next one. But at some point, I'm tired. I'm tired. Like I like this show. It's good. Obviously, we wouldn't be having a podcast talking about it. If we didn't like this show. But at some point, if they keep if the rest of the season is to be continued. I will jump off a cliff because this is too much.
Rosalinda Mendez:So kind of, you know, going with that theme. We have come to the end of our podcast, but it's To be continued because we still don't know what's happened at this luncheon...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* Luncheon. Yes.
Rosalinda Mendez:...Yet. So the Met Gala luncheon will continue...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:To be continued next time for Episode Five. But yeah, thank you so much for listening this far into our ramblings, if you wouldn't mind subscribing, dropping like, a review, or a comment. That'd be awesome. We look forward to seeing you in the next one.
Rosalinda Mendez:See you later!
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Bye.