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In this first episode, Sara and Rosalinda pop their podcasting cherry by diving into Episode 1 of the new Bravo franchise, The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. They breakdown the new cast of women and try to unpack what's the big deal with hospitals? Moreover, they try and understand where seven-year-olds use "Grit" and "Hustle" and look to find Mary's magical leg saving water.
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Hey guys welcome to Met Gala luncheon I'm your host Sara Van Tuerenhout and I'm joined by
Rosalinda Mendez:Rosalinda
Sara Van Tuerenhout:And this is the podcast where we break down our favorite reality TV shows and dive into the craziness that ensues. This week for our first episode, we're getting into the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City episode one, "Welcome to Salt Lake City."
Rosalinda Mendez:This is just a great thing. I'm a real housewives fan like, I watched the very first Orange County, so watching this one, you know, and being the first one that we're watching together is actually pretty exciting for me. So we need to break it in to see how they've chosen these women. So we're talking a little bit about each one of them so we can kind of introduce you to them, and then we'll get down into what we'll be seeing for the...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects the first episode.
Rosalinda Mendez:Exactly.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:A lot went down this first episode and I'm really excited to see where this season goes. So we've got six interesting women...
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I mean, they're all very diverse. It's like you pretty much think of Salt Lake City, and they kind of even preface this in the intro that you know, it's kind of you know, Salt Lake City is kind of magical and weird because of the Mormons.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, I mean, it was...it definitely like out of left field like choosing Salt Lake City as a location.
Rosalinda Mendez:It did...I guess my thing is, is like, are the Mormons really that mystical?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I mean, they have their own planet and magical underwear.
Rosalinda Mendez:No, no, I get that but, but the funny thing was, is that I'm just like, okay, we've all met Mitt Romney, he's not that scary. Like, in terms of Mormons, I mean, I could name a few, but they don't. But anyway, but then then you find out that they're kind of all a little bit Mormon adjacent. So you're not really getting into the mysticalness of the Mormons, even though many of them seem to be related.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, Mormon royalty, and like the bodyguard of Brigham Young, like we've got some heavy hitters in the Mormon church that have just kind of fallen off the bandwagon.
Rosalinda Mendez:Well, my thing is, part of that is like, I didn't realize that they considered Howard Hughes, a Mormon. I mean, it was just his driver that was a Mormon.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:mean, I uess, you know, they need as any people as they can get, so hey'll take anyon
Rosalinda Mendez:But that's what constitutes Mormon royalty, but I literally don't think he was Mormon. I mean, he's buried, like, right next to our downtown here in Houston. So, you know, he was also in one of those hermetic chambers and never cut off his hair or his fingernails. Like that's much more mystical than any of the Mormon stuff we've gotten into in this first episode.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, but I guess, you know, that's pretty on brand for Mormonism. You know, it's about the pursuit of perfection, and, you know...
Rosalinda Mendez:I- I guess so anyway. So just to get right into it, I guess we can talk about, you know, we're just going to kind of go through each of the women because they all have very interesting taglines, which we're not gonna really we may like refer to them, but like other podcasts, talk about them in depth, which I'm not sure really needs to be...*interjects* Rehashed. Yeah....examined that much.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Although I will say I was kind of disappointed. I mean, these women obviously, have seen previous Housewives franchises, and this is the best, like even their kids didn't comment on it. Like, I don't know.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I was they were they were not they were not the best in terms of out of the gate taglines, but I guess first off we meet Jen.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. Jen. Oh, gosh. Do we have a lot to say about Jen, but we'll keep it light to start.
Rosalinda Mendez:Right so basically, we kind of opened up with Jen and her family having breakfast.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah yeah, Coach Shah was making breakfast for the for the fam.
Rosalinda Mendez:So Jen is like, she's a Pacific Islander and also Chinese.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, she's like the Tongan, Hawaiian, and Chinese, and I think she was born in Hawaii, and then she moved to Salt Lake City when she was like seven or eight or something like that and was converted to Mormonism, and...and that I guess, maybe the she met coach Shah in Utah as well.
Rosalinda Mendez:Coach Shah, who is a Muslim football coach for the University of Utah.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, that must be very interesting, living in Salt Lake City for him.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I mean, I guess the fact that he's the football coach, he gets lots of basically passes on things that I think most people at you know, at Utah may not have to like deal with. At least he's not at BYU where he would be under lock and key. But you know, he is at Utah, and I guess they're...they're as long as the Utes are doing okay, they're probably not going to come down on him too hard. But anyway, so we learned about a lot about Jen and her and her family. She has how many sons?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I think three, right? Yeah. And she definitely for a breakfast conversation, this first intro into her life was just...it definitely just took me aback. It was like, oh, gosh, this is this is Jen Shah. Because like the first episode, she's asking her son, "oh, do you have a girlfriend?" And he's like, the her youngest son or middle son or whatever, was like, "oh, I don't know what you're talking about," and like, She's like,"oh, just like, don't go kissing anybody cuz you could get AIDS??"
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, so right off the bat, she like comes out with something that like, huh?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:Literally, have you been under a rock? Like, we know that you can't get AIDS from kissing?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, that was just really like, like, all of a sons and even Coach Shah was like, "what? what is happening?"
Rosalinda Mendez:I can't believe that we're still in 2020 and she's or I guess it was 2019...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:...She was still discussing AIDS as something that's communicable, by kissing,
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, byt then I mean, she, you know, doubled down on this awkward breakfast. Like, I don't know about you, but if - when I'm having breakfast, I'm not really thinking about these, like, wanting to talk about relationships or AIDS. You know, I don't know. But she she keeps going and talks about and asked her son if he'd ever heard of sexting, and I just think it's funny how they both were like,"no, no, I've never heard of sexting before." Like, that, obviously, is a lie. Like, come on.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, it's just, it is crazy. I mean, you know, the and the thing that's even more hilarious about that is that then she's gonna give me advice about if you get a sext, then you have to block them and then come tell me. Like any like, normal teenager is going to come tell their mother about the sext they got.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Like, oh, my God, that'd be such horror, like no.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, no, I, I kind of feel like that was that that just seemed really a little bit artificial to me.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:I mean, obviously, and I feel bad for the kids. Because like, obviously, you're first of all, it's an awkward conversation. I don't think that's going on at the Shah house every day
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Like normally. It was the cameras?
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah there were cameras there, so she had to come up with something kind of, you know, shocking.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Salacious.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah. For her...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* First intro.
Rosalinda Mendez:...Yeah, exactly. And then you're the kids and you're like, these people are all in my house, and my mom's asking me about sexting, and she's also then saying to me, "hey, you know, come tell me about your sext."
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:That is creepy AF anyway...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Although I mean, I feel like you know, what the amount of assistants she has and like, you know, I don't know. I feel like it's kind of um...what's that housewife from Beverly Hills? Oh, gosh. From this last season. She was Charlie Sheen's ex wife.
Rosalinda Mendez:Oh, yeah. Oh, God. Now uh. Denise.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Denise Richards. How she was always talking about sex, and that was a whole scandal for this last season. But like, I don't know, I just feel like Jen and her assistants are kind of out there raunchy. Not in a bad way, bu like, I don't know, mayb they're used to hearing thes types
Rosalinda Mendez:Well, I guess that's the crazy thing. It's like, all of a sudden, like, after you know, Erika Jayne and her glamsquad, which I guess are now going away because of the whole Tom and Erika Jayne
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* The rise and fall...
Rosalinda Mendez:The whole rise and fall that was a- if you haven't read it, you should you know check out...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* The LA Times.
Rosalinda Mendez:...The LA Times on the rise and fall of Erika Jayne and Tom. But, you know, she kind of pioneered the glam squad. I mean, there were other people who had some glam squads before, but this was like an impressive thing, and it felt like, it felt like they all of a sudden housewives need to have a glam squad.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:In fact, I want to say when Beverly Hills came back after the first season of Erika Jayne, they all had...I mean, Dorit had a glam squad.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:Everybody had their glam squad and their little social media, like followers who...not followers, but I guess, assistants that were making sure that they had every Instagramable moment, like there wasn't like and she was like, look, everybody was looking perfect.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:But yeah, I felt like this was Jen's like attempt to like
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* at the Erika glam squad...
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, she wanted to be Erika Jayne like,
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, well, cuz she had the Shah squad.
Rosalinda Mendez:Right.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:But let me but then you get into her first assistant Stuart, who just like knows everything about her. She was like, Oh, yeah, Stuart knows more about me than even Sharrieff.
Rosalinda Mendez:Which is her husband.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Which is yes, coach Shah.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah. So yeah, my thing is, is like, I don't know which kind of I mean, he looks like he's probably in his early his 40s. Maybe...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:A 40 year old white, Mormon, man knowing about somebody's cycle.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, I mean, I mean, that's fine, but it's just like, I don't understand like, I don't understand the whole Shah squad in general. Like she has 8 plus assistant and we don't even know what she does.
Rosalinda Mendez:Right? They never really refer to what she does at all.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, besides like, host crazy parties and like, lets her assistants know that they can't eat. Because they have to do everything and they have to be available at a moment's notice.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, it just sounds...it just sounds crazy.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. And then finally also about Jen, we noticed multiple times in the episode, her like, every single time she got out of a car. It was like a big Hollywood moment like paparazzi. You see her foot coming down on the pavement, and she's wearing these like kick ass heels. Its just I mean, she's, she's a character.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, it is really crazy.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:All right, moving on to Heather, we see that she is...that she's a Pioneer Woman blazing her own trail with Beauty Lab Cosmetics, which I mean, I didn't realize the Mormon church was all about perfection. I mean, I'll be honest, I didn't know much about the Mormon Church in general before this TV show, but I guess yeah, running a cosmetics brand would, would really be like putting your hand in a river of money.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, it sounds like it is, but yeah, I was the same. I was not I was not aware of not only that, but there was like, you know, these giant Mormon industries based around that, you know, kind of perfection. The interesting thing about Heather, which I know has been mentioned by just people in the media. I mean, it is kind of very, I guess it's nice to have someone who has, like I would say a more realistic body type.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:And to have I mean she doesn't have the, you know, I mean, that's the thing about it, like, a lot of the rest of the women are pretty much your kind of stereotypical Real Housewives, they either have like really big boobs, they've had the plastic surgery, they look pretty perfect.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:And the fact that she is a person who makes her money from doing things like that, but is like very comfortable in her own skin, and is, you know, and also, I mean, she has daughters, and she seems to be very body positive with them.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:I don't think she's really pushing any agenda that you have to be perfect, even though that's what she does for a living.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:That's true, but I mean, I did think it was an interesting kind of like, side comment. I don't think there's really much into it, but you know, I like to overanalyze things, but like she called her kids like greasy monkeys going into that facial, like y'all need some help.
Rosalinda Mendez:I think she's just trying to be like the, you know, mom who's in touch.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I mean, I don't know, I've never heard greasy monkey before. I don't...yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:Well, you know, that's Jen... And well, and but the thing is... I think, I guess I mean, Heather, sorry.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Heather. Heather, is like I mean, she's like real down to earth I think that's the I mean, I think in that case, she is very pioneer. Like she's not she's she doesn't put on a ton of air. She kind of knows who she is. She's also very, um I think she really, she really does have this idea, even though she has a lot of insecurities, and they pop up a lot in terms of her just not feeling that she's adequate, and part of that is I mean, we'll get into it later, but about you know, the fact she's divorced. Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:And she's raising these girls on her own, and she also was married to
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Mormon royalty.
Rosalinda Mendez:Again, we find out...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:So um yeah I mean, I think that that's like, to me the most interesting thing about *Heather* is that she is like, more down to earth and more normal.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, I think she's definitely the most relatable of, of the Housewives may like maybe have, like all the all of the franchises. I don't know. I've only seen New York and Beverly Hills, so like, neither of those franchises are very, you know, like, relatable to the everyday woman because we don't all have glam squads we're not all going to the Hamptons, and then you know, but yeah, Heather feels very approachable, relatable.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I mean, you have like Gina and Emily on OC now who are much more like, you know, body...body types are more like normal people. But my thing is, is they still seem to be a little bit contrived. Now, the weird thing is Emily is married to a Mormon.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Oh, interesting.
Rosalinda Mendez:There is this Mormon thing going through...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Its a conspiracy.
Rosalinda Mendez:It is. Bravo is now trying to push...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* The Mormon agenda.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, anyway, so uh...but yeah, so I guess you know, part of you know what it is with her is I think she unlike Gina and Emily, I think she just seems like someone who is like, literally somebody could go out and have a... you could take...you could have a cocktail with and...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:...and have fun with and she wouldn't be, too I guess too stuffy or too snooty. She probably wouldn't like tell you to jog on.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Jog on...Okay. The next housewife we meet is Whitney and like, I- it was, I guess, jarring is the wrong word, but like, it was very abrupt the transition in between meeting Heather and then going into Whitney because the setup is of a wedding., and like you see Whitney getting ready in this beautiful white dress going down the aisle, and like that's very much - you told me this earlier - was like very much like a season finale of a housewives franchise episode, but like, that's her entrance.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, pretty much vow renewals are the sacrosanct thing of a final episode or maybe the next to the final episode on anything, and they usually don't end up well. Like nobody who's had a vow renewal on The Real Housewives has ever stayed married. So good luck to you, Whitney.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Well, I mean, it has been 16 years. So you know, fingers crossed for them.
Rosalinda Mendez:I don't know. I want to say Vicky and Don were married for a long time as well, like, Shannon Bedore was like, at least I don't know 19, 20 in. I don't know
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Oh gosh.
Rosalinda Mendez:So you know, I think they both had her beat. And then they were gone...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* Ramona and oh, shoot. What's his name?
Rosalinda Mendez:Mario, I think.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:They had a vow renewal. Yeah, the year before they split.
Rosalinda Mendez:Oh, yeah. So they they actually were married probably the longest.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:True
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I don't think Whitney I mean, good luck girl. But we learned so much about Whitney, we learned that she is considered in the Mormon community - she and her husband of this vow renewal - are a little bit on the risqu side, because they met when she was pretty young.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Well and married. They're both married
Rosalinda Mendez:Right, they worked at the same place, and I guess he was actually an elder or something in LDS.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Oh, I didn't know that.
Rosalinda Mendez:And so yeah, so he lost his position in the church.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Whoa, yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:So yeah...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* And his wife and kids.
Rosalinda Mendez:Well, yeah, she lost her husband. So yeah. But you know it. Yeah. So that's like, that's interesting, and then we learned very early on that, you know, she has an interesting hobby.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Pole dancing.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, she has a pole in her house.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she can work it.
Rosalinda Mendez:She can and then and for all those haters out there. We all know that if we could work that pole, like...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* She does...
Rosalinda Mendez:....Whitney we would be doing it, and we'd be doing it on camera.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. I mean, she's got some abs. I mean, I'd be flaunting them too.
Rosalinda Mendez:So yeah. So that was, yeah, it was very abrupt, and it was a little odd, and one of the things I've heard is that Bravo had a production company.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Mhmm.
Rosalinda Mendez:That they used for this. Because they teased it at Bravo con, like...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* In October.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah. So basically, that first production company got fired for different reasons.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Oh Okay.
Rosalinda Mendez:So I think some of the footage that we see, basically, it was from that first production company.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Oh...
Rosalinda Mendez:So that's why it seems to jump a lot chronologically.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:In terms of what you're seeing so I'm not sure why they decided to edit this way, but you know, it's, it's, it's okay. It's, it gives us a good kind of introduction to Whitney., and honestly, she's really pleasant. She's really nice. I like her. She too, is very genuine.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:...as a person.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I really like her. I think we'll get into it late, but I think she's definitely my favorite of this cast.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:So far.
Rosalinda Mendez:She's, yeah she's really good and again, I just think that she again knows herself. I mean, I think one of the things that she is like, she realizes that she's not the most perfect person in the cast, and she's okay with that. She's not trying to strive for the same perfection that Heather is trying to...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* or like...or Lisa, which we will get into later too.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah. So yeah, so I mean, enough, and hopefully, we'll be seeing a lot more of Whitney as the episodes proceed.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:And we'll get to know a little bit more about her. But this was a good kind of, she's just kind of like, I don't know, she's a girl's girl. She's like, really sweet, and really nice, and, you know, she speaks her mind. She's not gonna let anybody necessarily roll over her.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, I think Heather and Whitney are nice, like, you know, breath of fresh air for the show.
Rosalinda Mendez:They are not the drama.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:No, not at all.
Rosalinda Mendez:They may cause some, I guess, I mean, they, they're like I said, they're very, um, they're not gonna let themselves be steamrolled. So I think they, they could create some drama.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, I know. Watch that, like bite me in the butt later this season.
Rosalinda Mendez:It could... But I really think right now, at least I don't know. I would want them as my friends. I'm not sure if I would want Jen Shah as my friend.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, I don't...No.
Rosalinda Mendez:It's just it's too much work.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, again, we'll get into that later in this episode because, you know, shit goes down. But before we get into that, we see we were introduced to Meredith, I think, yeah, another favorite as well.
Rosalinda Mendez:And this is the thing with this season of Salt Lake City which chaps me. They have two housewives that look very much alike.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:And, you know, I think that I'm gonna have trouble telling which one is which, and I know they're not identical, but their body types are pretty much the same, their hair is the same, the shape of their faces are the same, and I get that they're two different people, and as we meet them, we realize they may look alike, but it's like, well, there's the one good twin and the evil twin.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:So and we'll get more. We'll get more on to that. But yeah, no, Meredith is actually a very, she seems really nice.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, I don't she does.... Definitely doesn't like fit the housewife mold, per se. I mean, looks wise for sure. But like, she seems very like, um, you know, laid back I guess, is the word I'm trying to go for but like, you know, like, understated.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, and you can and, and we also meet her husband and her son who is taken and did we meet-?. She has a daughter as well.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, she has. I think she has three kids in total. But we've only met Brooks
Rosalinda Mendez:Right.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:So far.
Rosalinda Mendez:And so yeah, so she has her son Brooks is basically taking the semester off.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:To be with his mom.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:And be on the housewives.
Rosalinda Mendez:Exactly. I mean, my thing is, is like, Brooks, honey, we know what you're on for... you're- I mean, you may you know, being with your mom may be a little bit of a perk, but it's pretty clear that this boy has designs on what this is going to do for his career.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, and for his fashion brand.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah. There's lots of people that come on the housewives or like mostly housewives themselves, who are all about self promotion. I think this is like the first kid that I've seen that comes on that's like, I mean, aside from Gia from New Jersey, that it but I think she was pushed more into this. I think he was pushing the door in all on his own.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. Because I mean, like from from the gate, like, he's just coming out with these quippy remarks about like, his family and things, and so you're like, you're like, okay, yeah, he's supposed to...he's trying to be the comedic relief, the relatable guy that we all like.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah. And it's interesting, because they're Salt Lake City transplants. Right?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, they're from the Chicago.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, they're from Chicago, and she has this fabulous like celebrity jewelry and clothing store.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. Which you had to tell me like why that had to be in Park City. But...
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I mean, I was trying to explain that Park City is you know, a playground for the rich and famous and it's close to Sundance, and that's where all the big Sundance events happen. But she she's also actually good at I mean, as much as like I said, we're giving her I guess her son a hard time. She's pretty good at self promotion, too, because she's, she's right out the gate. She's like, so and so, and so and so....
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Rhianna like, Charleze...
Rosalinda Mendez:*interjects* Charleze Theron
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Theron. Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:They're all my clients.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. No, no big deal Scarlett Johansen just you know, people normal everyday people just like you.
Rosalinda Mendez:Right. And so yeah, and you know, if you look up her jewelry line, there's like, uh yeah, that's way out of normal people's price range. So....
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Gosh, how much? Do you remember?
Rosalinda Mendez:I think there was like one thing on there was like $14,000, which is a necklace
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Thats like a casual purchase.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, exactly. It's a browsing purchase.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, I you know, just feeling impulsive today.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah. I like a pretty bobble.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, right.
Rosalinda Mendez:Anyway, so you meet her. We meet her husband, who's a little gruff, honestly.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, they don't seem to match at all.
Rosalinda Mendez:They don't they don't seem very and they've been married for like 20 years?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. 20-23 years, something like that.
Rosalinda Mendez:And yeah, they just don't seem like a happy couple. They go on this very strange drive to go on to a hike.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:It was a very contrived walk. I- itjust felt very weird. I mean, maybe that's because they're new to like, reality TV and stuff, but it was just like, let's go on this 15 minute walk, which it's like, why?
Rosalinda Mendez:They could have walked on in their neighborhood.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, I have no clue, and the conversations they had. I just, I don't know because they saw that, like, animal print that looked to be like a cougar or something. And then...
Rosalinda Mendez:*interjects* It was probably a dog.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:No--oh, yeah. I guess... I don't know that's a pretty big dog if that was a dog...
Rosalinda Mendez:But they thought that it was a bear right?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, yeah, they thought it was a bear, and how that the dad was like, Oh, well, wouldn't that have been funny Brooks if you got like mauled by the bear, because then you get so many more followers. It's like, why is that where his head went immediately? Like, that's messed up.
Rosalinda Mendez:But it was interesting that he had that insight into his son. Like his whole thing was based on followers.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point. I didn't think about that.
Rosalinda Mendez:That was his first instinct like, yeah, let's get you mauled, so we can like, up your your Insta cred.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, and I feel like Brooks was kind of into it, except that he was like, "well, I don't want to risk my life." But he was about getting more followers.
Rosalinda Mendez:Exactly. So that was that was bizarre. But as we said, it just looks like their... their relationship is in a maybe a rocky place. I don't know if it's just because of the distance...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:...or what's going on. But then you know, you later you kind of see them trying to like make up for like, not being around. And so he does this weird thing.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, the floral arrangement. That was so strange.
Rosalinda Mendez:And I mean, it was just it was, it was it was a very strange floral arrangement. And it wasn't like, you know, these people supposedly have money, you would think that they could find actual florist who could do whatever it is they needed done. But no, he like, gives it to Brooks to do and I don't know if that's just so you could, you know, have more shoot time like they'd have more cameras on him.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Maybe, that's a good point. Because like that floral arrangement just look like a rose threw up in that poor living room. It just looked it went past romantic or kind. It was just like, oh, my God, like, did a tornado pass through here.
Rosalinda Mendez:It wasn't like, you know, sometimes when you see things, I mean, we've seen lots of people. I mean, oh God, Tamra and Eddie, we've seen people on other reality like, Bravo, kind of housewives show where they do the whole I'm gonna scatter rose petals everywhere and like have candles and do everything that's quote unquote kitschy romantic, but it is on point. This is just like someone just came in with threw like, literally like, like if someone had like, opened up a pillow with feathers, and the feathers went all over the floor. That's what the rose petals looked like.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:And then like was like, hmmm, this mess of petals is missing something. Oh, right. A rose coffin, because that's just really what all the girls want these days.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, it's just weird. I didn't. I didn't really understand. It was like the random walk. Like the entire conversation around that was just like, okay, I'm just saying stuff to say stuff.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. And then like, even the FaceTime call after the whole arrangement, she was like, "oh, well, thanks," and he was like,"okay, cool." It was just like, I don't know, it was a weird start to Meredith's arc, I guess.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah. And again, I'm with you. Like, if anyone like that I feel really, really close to and is trying to do something romantic for me, and in that same breath says something about a coffin.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Well, yeah, I mean, he didn't say it was a coffin. It just, it LOOKED like a coffin.
Rosalinda Mendez:I know but that was just like, ugh, it's just like, a weird place to take that in the romantic realm.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, I mean, maybe like, you know, a like 3D Rose heart or something. But like this, like this rectangle, rectangular thing. It made no sense.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I don't know. It's just like, What are you trying to harken back to for that?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah definitelly a little ominous?
Rosalinda Mendez:A little weird.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Like, are you trying to tell us something?
Rosalinda Mendez:So then the next person we meet is the evil twin.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yes. Oh, gosh, Lisa.
Rosalinda Mendez:And I know are probably kind of like maybe you would like Lisa but...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* So sorry for you Lisa stans..
Rosalinda Mendez:...Not our cup of tea.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, we're not gonna hold back here. I am not a fan of Lisa in the slightest.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I mean, she is super pretentious.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, "I'm Miss New York. I know fashion. I know everything, and I'm the best Mormon ever."
Rosalinda Mendez:Like literally she like says she's from New York, but when she like really starts to talk and she gets into it. She sounds like she's from Jersey. Yes. It's like*immitates Jersey accent* isn't it? It's like what?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:She's like, she wants to be New York.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I mean, she may be from New York. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna poopoo her provenance but I just think she's not she's not from the Upper East Side of New York.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:That is for sure. She would not fit in with the New York housewives.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I'm not sure that that would go far. I think her Ramona would have her cast out immediately. So anyway, so we meet her and one of the things that kind of stands out maybe this is something that clouds our judgment, but we like get a look at her house, and I have to say all of our houses are pretty cute.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:They're cute. I mean, I think I'm just biased because of New York and Beverly Hills who have like McMega mansions...
Rosalinda Mendez:*interjects* Aside from Jen who has the giant chalet
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Ok Yeah Jen's chalet, but like I'm just used to like you know, Kyle Richard's house, which is like an estate, and then you look at these cute little Salt Lake City houses, which are very big. You know, I mean they're bigger than our house.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, but then you go into her house and I, you know, she is I guess she likes to say she's very minimalist and mono...monochrome.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Oh Yeah, but then like she she's like"Miss New York," "Miss style" and then we go into her house at
6:45am and she's waking up her sons and you see these hideous big black posters, I guess you could say, with like "grit" and"hustle." It's just like, why?
Rosalinda Mendez:Like, yeah, it's like normally you would see like the kids names like, above their beds. But there are these giant letters that I guess are supposed to instill them with these qualities.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, it just it was very off putting and they weren't even hanging. They were like sitting on the bed.
Rosalinda Mendez:And the colors were just...the colors of the kid's room was like they were sad and drab.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. It just lacked personality, and I know this is like, the most miniscule things to pick on a person but it really stood out to me and it really kind of grinded my gears.
Rosalinda Mendez:I know my thing is like, what is a seven year old hustling for?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, like Cheerios? Like, I don't know.
Rosalinda Mendez:And what have they overcome that they need grit for? I'm like they live in a beautiful Salt Lake City you know it probably suburb? Yeah, like they live somewhere in a really beautiful house in a nice neighborhood.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:They get whatever they want.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah. So I think that's I mean, they clearly get whatever they want. Yeah.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:But I guess not their own decorations. But then we also learn a bit about Lisa's businesses like she's a luxury...
Rosalinda Mendez:*interjects Event planner.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Event planner, but I think like a media firm or something.
Rosalinda Mendez:Right.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:And then like, she also owns like, a laundry list of tequilas.
Rosalinda Mendez:Right.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:And vodka.
Rosalinda Mendez:She's doing
Sara Van Tuerenhout:She's starting vodka. Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:So but she's Yeah, she's...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:She owns like four tequila brands.
Rosalinda Mendez:She's trying to be the Bethenny of Salt Lake City, and actually, I guess she's doing okay.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, yeah, I did look up her tequila VIDA, and it actually did win some awards. So I guess that's something.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I'm starting to think everybody has a tequila brand. Maybe that should be our next move.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I know. After the podcast.
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Sara Van Tuerenhout:Oh, gosh.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, so that's kind of interesting. I mean, that she does this and she likes to say she's very proud that she is... she is Mormon.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:She is LDS and, you know, they don't drink and she doesn't drink or does she drink?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I'm really confused about that. Because she says she doesn't drink but she's like, our house is always stocked. Why would it need to be stocked if you aren't drinking?
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, it's it's it is kind of a strange thing. So maybe we'll learn more as the episodes go by we can....
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:....We'll have to stalk and see if there's actually any drinking going on.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Because like, Lisa seems to be a ball of hypocrisy, but we'll see that later as well.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I hope I I'm interested. I think she's literally going to be one of the big pot stirers this....
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* Yeah, I think she's she's gonna be the villain.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah. Well, she'll be one of them. I'm sure.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, that's true.
Rosalinda Mendez:I don't think this they're going to be limited to one villain.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:No, not at all.
Rosalinda Mendez:So, and then we're saving the best for last.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Mary Cosby.
Rosalinda Mendez:Mary Cosby.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Wow, what a woman.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, we learned a lot about Mary really early.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, more than I think anyone ever wanted to know about anyone else.
Rosalinda Mendez:So she again is not LDS she is Pentecostal.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:And something interesting, which I did not understand could be done. She was willed her husband in...in her grandma's will because her husband was her grandma's second husband. So she
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* Her grandma's
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, her grandma. Yeah, her Grandma's second husband, and so now she is married to her step grandpa.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, that's just so messed up on so many levels, and like, I'm sure we don't have to get into that because we're all having the same feeling of like, what the fuck? But yeah...
Rosalinda Mendez:Step grandpa.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Step. Yeah, I don't I mean, they have a son together, which is just a whole nother thing to unpack.
Rosalinda Mendez:Right, and we and we find out a lot about like that. I mean, she is...I will have to say something. Mary does not hold back.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:No.
Rosalinda Mendez:She is like she is honestly a bit of an open book. My understanding now is she's trying to close that book a lot. Like she's, uh, you know, trying to sue people so they don't talk about her life. She's like...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* Blocking people on Instagram....
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:...and like pages.
Rosalinda Mendez:It's really odd that you would like come out the gate being so gangster, "I'm open I talk about everything," and then now that the show's aired, she's kind of like, stay out of my business.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, I mean, you sign up for The Real Housewives like none of these women are getting spared scrutiny. You know. So like she signed up for this.
Rosalinda Mendez:Exactly, no, no, Mary has like, she has this amazing set of interesting and amazing sense of fashion. She actually has the coin to be able to go out and buy stuff. She has a lot of vintage stuff, and she is always kind of dressed to the nines, and basically, she is living for it, and yes, of having a giant, you know, just a giant wardrobe and a giant life, I think, and so that was that's kind of interesting. She is the first lady of her church because she thinks pastor sounds too old.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. Yeah. Because somehow First Lady really just has a better ring to it.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, she's really good about needing to like, label things.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. I think that's how she like, compartmentalizes her world.
Rosalinda Mendez:That's true. So I think I mean, so again, we talked about the fact that she has this very unique style, and
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Which I think is kind of crazy. Because like, how is this church getting her enough money to get like, vintage Prada, and Versace, and Gucci? Which I mean, that's a lot of money. That's not...
Rosalinda Mendez:*interjects* Oh come on we should know. We have Joel Osteen down the road.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, but I mean, is Mary the First Lady, really Joel Osteen level?
Rosalinda Mendez:Well, apparently you don't need much. I mean, maybe if we don't do we go into the tequila thing, maybe we'll find Jesus.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. Praise Jesus. Welcome to our podcast...
Rosalinda Mendez:Because we do see a little clip of her in the church.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, she's like yelling, moving, and shaking.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I think that's how she keeps fit.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, that does seem like a workout to be a pastor or First Lady.
Rosalinda Mendez:So yeah, so that's kind of the intro that Bravo has given us to this new season of ladies. And then we kind of...it kind of moves on from the you know, I'm gonna be introducing you to them to actually starting to see them in the wild together...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Interact.
Rosalinda Mendez:So yeah, so cuz you're kind of fig- trying to figure out how do these all these women like really connect?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Mesh? Yeah. Because it just seem like they're from different social circles, really. Besides Lisa and Meredith - the twins. They all just seem like, yeah, a mishmash,
Rosalinda Mendez:But they seem to know each other, like, aren't two of them cousins? Like Whitney is Somebodies cousin.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. Whitney and Heather are cousins.
Rosalinda Mendez:I guess that happens a lot in LDS.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah I guess, I mean yeah, the Mormon Church is pretty tight knit.
Rosalinda Mendez:I mean, and they are royalty...they're both royalty.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:That's true. That's true.
Rosalinda Mendez:So they probably had to I mean, they probably I mean, royalty...that's like the...it's like the British they have to marry their cousins. No, I'm just saying it's just the same kind of sucession kind of thing. You can't marry just anybody.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:No, that's true.
Rosalinda Mendez:So I wasn't trying to make any untoward.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:To our Mormon followers out there.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah. No, I'm just saying I was comparing you to the British monarchy. It's not a bad thing unless you don't like them.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. So first, kind of the first matchup you could say is Lisa versus Heather. Where they're both... well, I guess, Lisa's not from Utah, but she moved here for college. But Heather claimed that she knew Lisa from BYU, like 20 years ago, and Jen brought it up at a conversation at Meredith's house, and Lisa was like, "yeah, I never met that girl. I don't really know her," and then proceeded to say,"oh, well, actually, you know, she you know, like she flashed her boobs."
Rosalinda Mendez:And she was a good time, girl.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:She's a good time, girl "Honor Code What?" And it is like, that's like, so rude.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I know. Because the thing is, is like BYU does not play.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:No.
Rosalinda Mendez:Like, literally, I had a friend who was working for BYU. I don't think they were actually teaching, and my friend who is from actually also from New York, or New Jersey, New York. They went jogging one day, like literally, and they had like a cap sleeve top, and like running shorts and they got called into the president of BYU's office and they were handed like literally basketball length shorts, and three quarters sleeve shirt and said that like if they were caught out again, and like she was like, "who reported them" and like they have like this rule where you it's like on your honor to report people if they break the rules.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* That's some Gilead type stuff...
Rosalinda Mendez:But my thing... Yeah, but my thing is, is that I just I, I believe I believe Heather like if that actually happened, she would have been out of there. It wouldn't have been Honor Code what? It would have been Heather got kicked out of school, what
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Do you think they can like retro actively take away her...
Rosalinda Mendez:*interjects* Degree?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Diploma? Oh, yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:Well, I mean, I think Heather's like very adamant that that did not happen and so it was...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* She wishes it happened.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah. Cuz like that's the other thing about Lisa which we didn't...I think we skipped over but like she's a convert so she's not I mean she's not Mormon royalty like Heather.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:No, she was Jewish upbringing and then wasn't really religious
Rosalinda Mendez:And then somebody knocked on their door. I mean, you know the Mormons when they come the two guys come in their little like, you know Elder Price shows up
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Im sure that's an accurate depiction, the Book of Mormon. *sing song voice * "Hello, my name is Elder Price."
Rosalinda Mendez:But like and she just said her mom said I've been waiting for you like, I mean No offense, but like, I'm sure that Jehovah Witnesses are like jonesing for that to happen to them do I'm like, like,
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I know, so was it just a roll of the dice? She could have been a Jehova Witness.
Rosalinda Mendez:I think so like, literally, I don't know. But you know, you know, however you come to God, that's, that's,
Sara Van Tuerenhout:That's your journey.
Rosalinda Mendez:That's your journey. It just sounded a little funny that like
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* Just the first person that knocked up my door.
Rosalinda Mendez:Its like, I'm not sure that I've ever waited for any, like, major thing in my life to just knock on my door. But maybe that's how I should change my life.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, maybe we're doing it wrong.
Rosalinda Mendez:Anyway, anywho back to them. Because literally, it was a thing. Like that's like a really, especially in that community, and like, honestly, Heather does have a lot of hang ups about the fact that she is not. I mean, she feels like in some ways she failed, but she's kind of happy. I think that she's divorced, but she still feels like that's a weakness and a failure. So the fact that someone has... she is she does I think strive for perfection, I think that's still very much ingrained in her so that someone would besmirch her like, reputation, I think is just...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* And just like saying you don't know someone when they said that they knew you is just that is like a gut punch.
Rosalinda Mendez:I know. It's reminiscent of Nene and Phaedra. I mean, I don't know if all of you remember, but back in the day, Nene was like "Phaedra who? I didn't know her when we lived down there in Athens," I think is where they're from. Anyway, she was like, I didn't know her, and it was just it was a thing, and so because apparently, and I'm not sure how you wouldn't I don't care if like, you know Phaedra Parks is Phaedra Parks, you were going to know her when she was 16 or whatever, and like Nene is the same way. So literally, this is the same dynamic like literally, they would have known each other. BYU is not this giant place.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:And they have you segregated most of the time. So the girls are going to know the girls. So I dont-
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* Especially know Mormon royalty.
Rosalinda Mendez:Exactly, like Heather would have been up there.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. But yeah, so we have that Lisa v. Heather. Definitely some bad blood between them. Then we have a relationship between Meredith and Jen. I guess they met in New York, like two years prior to the show, and started developing a relationship, and so that first episode, in this first episode, it was Meredith's birthday week, and Jen decided to be Jen and decide this over the like a hostess over the top party inspired by the Met Gala.
Rosalinda Mendez:Which I think is hilarious. So that for two people like again, going back to. So cuz I remember, Heather, like was talking to Jen about it, and basically, as Jen was describing the party, Heather was very nicely trying to say to her, that doesn't sound like her vibe. Like I don't think she would like something small and more intimate...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* And like refined. You know, whereas like, Heather was like,"oh, this would have been a perfect party for me."
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, exactly. Like, what are you gonna do for my party?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Exactly
Rosalinda Mendez:I want this party.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. I don't know if this is Meredith's cup of tea.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah. But again, so again, it was clear that Jen Shah and as she says, you know, everybody wants a Jen Shah party. Like I was like, I'm not sure that everyone does want a Jen Shah party.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, because....
Rosalinda Mendez:*interjects* Except for Jen Shah.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. Yeah. Especially I guess. Everybody might want a Jen Shah a party but definitely don't don't want a Jen Shah party as their birthday party. Because at the end of the day, a Jen Shah party... a Jen Shah birthday party is about Jen Shah. Because like even one of the guests who came to the birthday party thought it was Jen's birthday,
Rosalinda Mendez:That's because Jen's name was on the entrance
Sara Van Tuerenhout:That flower wall Oh my gosh. Like she couldn't make it any more obvious that she did not...she only did this for herself, and it just happened to be that Meredith' Birthday was that day.
Rosalinda Mendez:I know. And here's the thing. I mean, I've just got to mention this too. Like she has a very large home, which is the-
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* The Ski Chalet .
Rosalinda Mendez:Ski Chalet. It's a very large home, and somehow to have this amazing party for her friend, she had to somehow sneak it under her husband's nose. So he's out of town and she gets all the furniture removed.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah!
Rosalinda Mendez:And she has a giant like, like a awning built with stepping and repeat, the red carpet the whole thing and like still like pretending like he's not gonna notice like it's like some 16 year old like having a party when your parents go out of town....
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:...only having it with a gajillion dollars.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:That, and it's like obviously she's recording so like I'm assuming Coach Shah knows about this party now.
Rosalinda Mendez:I'm sure coach Shah knows but everything she does i'm not i'm not sure that he Sharrieff seems like he's on the ball.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, that's true.
Rosalinda Mendez:So But anyway, yes. Back to the flower wall. Like the flower wall look like the flower wall that the salon where we went and had your hair done for prom.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:It was a prom kind of-- it was a salon kind of flower wall.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:And and then of course it just said Jen, like what was it? Ski chalet? or Jen's chalet or Shah chalet?
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:And like...
Rosalinda Mendez:*interjects* And then people said Happy Birthday to her. Yes, we're like, happy birthday?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:One of the guests I think brought a gift for Jen, and she was like, "no, it's for Meredith," and the guest was so, like confused...
Rosalinda Mendez:Like, I wonder what that invitation look like, like didn't even mention Meredith's name?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:It probably didn't even have Meredith's name on it...
Rosalinda Mendez:Soire at the Shah Chalet.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:And like, in like, point five font.*laughs* "Meredith's Birthday Party."
Rosalinda Mendez:I know, because, aside from the core group, it seemed like no one knew this....
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Nobody knew. Did anyone I mean, did anyone know? Oh, I guess no, Meredith sent Jen an invite list.
Rosalinda Mendez:Right.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:So like, I guess Meredith did have some people there. But...
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, that's true. Which brings us to the next, and the crux of what we've we've seen, like some future things like in terms of what might be happening in previews of what's happening throughout the season, and it looks like we're getting...it's the beef is starting here.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, episode one, and like, this is some beef that happened off screen that we didn't even see. It's Mary Cosby versus Jen Shah. Which, when you rewind, we see that they're actually we're pretty good friends. So like they were...the first kind of clip we see with them is that Mary is at Jen's house, sharing a shoes, which I don't know about you, but like if I'm sharing my like, if I had Louboutins, like, I'm not like letting anyone's foot in my Louboutins.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, she seems fairly... I mean, they seem really close.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, but then....
Rosalinda Mendez:Then we see that there's a rift.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:It's very, very clear, and like, basically, this is one of those things that like, take to the grave. I'm never forgiving you. You're dead to me.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:So you'd think like something bad happened.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I mean, I'm sitting there going. I mean, did she she tried to sleep with Sharrieff because she's tired of grandpa? Or like...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.*laughs*
Rosalinda Mendez:I mean, something really major did she like totally like, you know, diss my child? Did you know, Pentecostal church like, start, you know, protesting outside the Shah Chalet? No, not really.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:She...Mary Cosby said that - not Jen - she just said at a lunch or no a dinner.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, it was like it was a gathering of the girls.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:But not not our... the girls that we know just like some other girls.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:But like,"oh, it smells like hospital in here."
Rosalinda Mendez:And this was after. After Jen had come from her grandmothers? No, no. her Aunt's....
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Bedside at the hospital. She just got a double amputation.
Rosalinda Mendez:Right. And she came...she left the double amputation patient. I mean, this woman who's so dedicated to her aunt.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Her aunt, who she considers a mother figure. Who raised her.
Rosalinda Mendez:She left the bed side of the double amputee on the day it happened.....
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:...By the way. Not just like it had happened, but the day it happened.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:"I need to go get a drink with the girls."
Rosalinda Mendez:Right. And Mary says "it smells LIKE hospital."
Sara Van Tuerenhout:It not anybody in specific, "it."
Rosalinda Mendez:And apparently I mean this is a little bit over the top too because Mary has this visceral problem with things that smell like hospital because she had all of her odor glands removed.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Like I know we probably should not be laughing at this, but it's just like she has she claims to have PTSD. Does she say PTSD?
Rosalinda Mendez:She said she has PTSD.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, she had PTSD and you know PTSD is a serious thing, but like what? Because she got her odor glands removed? Which, from my knowledge, I can't even imagine like what reason besides cosmetic, do you need your odor gland removed?
Rosalinda Mendez:Well, and then she was just like, well, I went to the hospital when I had my son, I just one push and it was done. Like it sounds like she went to a drive thru hospital, because she didn't spend a lot of time there. But it was the 30-20 days?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:30 days.
Rosalinda Mendez:30 days.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:And she died....She almost died twice.
Rosalinda Mendez:On the table.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:On the table. On the dying table.
Rosalinda Mendez:On the dying table.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:We thought it said dining table at first*laughing*
Rosalinda Mendez:I'm like...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*laughing* Where are they performing this surgery?
Rosalinda Mendez:I guess in Utah, they have a dying table. As opposed to I don't know, the Surgical table? Yeah. I mean, that's gonna make...have me have PTSD because if I have to have surgery, I'm just gonna look at it as the dying table.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Oh gosh, but yeah, she has this visceral. Like, I love her examples of, oh, I'll never go to the hospital. Even if I have to go get a nose job. Why is that your first thought of like, why you would need to go to the hospital?
Rosalinda Mendez:No heart attack. No stroke,
Sara Van Tuerenhout:A broken arm. An amputation.
Rosalinda Mendez:Exactly. But anyway, so back to the you know, offense. So literally, she said this, and then it was like, and then she's like, "she came after my family," and like, it's not just me. She came after my family.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:And like this was disrespected, direct dig, and, like, stab me in the back, and this is Jen, by the way, and it's just like, I- that makes it feels so disproportionate, what Mary said... she didn't even say to Jen, she said it to a friend of Jen's, who then told Jen about it. Which for sure. Is it the nicest thing to say "it smells like hospital in here?" No. Uh, but like, is it something that ends a good seemingly good friendship? A foot in Louboutin friendship? I don't know. I don't think so.
Rosalinda Mendez:Because my thing is, like, I would I mean, if I mean, they seem really tight, I would have called and said, you know, to my friend,"hey, did you say I smelled like hospital?" Because then I might be a little bit, you know, offended and then you might say"no, I said it smelled like hospital and you know, explain your weird odor gland removal, and why you have an issue with it," and then you can apologize because you can say, "if that offended you, that's whatever," and you know, we're done. Yeah, we we are done. So my thing is, this is my this is gonna be my one like, my beef with with with this whole like, and I don't know how far this is going to go. But from previews, it seems to go far. It is deep. The wound is deep. The hospital smell is deep. Um, but basically, I don't I my thing is is like, it almos seems like it is so contr ved. Like, we have to have a bee like a giant beef.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:Like they're, like so many things there could be beefs about, but the comment it smelled like hospital seems like yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm sure as like, anyone who's watched housewives. I mean, there's so much subtext in their life. You're like, Man, you're mad about that? There's like some other stuff that's happening, you know, and...
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects* Yeah, cuz that's, like such a visceral reaction that Jen had, like, she stormed out of the main ballroom into her own room, which is where the episode kind of leaves off. But it's like, that is a bit, like, I mean, that's a dramatic response to like, "it smells like hospital."
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, I mean, I mean, not to go back to other beefs. But like, you know, like the one beef I remember in Housewives history, which was about somebody saying something about someone was like, when Porsha kind of said that Kandi wanted to rape somebody and they had drugged people and done stuff, and so like, yeah, if someone's telling, like the general public that my husband and I are like, drugging and you know, sexually assaulting people, you know, when you have a family that is like, that is like bad, but that is not "you smell like hospital," I'm sorry, not the same!
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Absolutely not. Yeah, I just doesn't make sense. I mean, Mary's definitely not in the right. 100%. But like, Jen just seems like she's overreacting.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, it's like everything with her. It's really over the top.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:And like, Mary definitely didn't need to add that comment of like, "oh, well, she's getting a double amputation when she's 50 or something, 60, like, clearly she doesn't have a good diet and she should just drink water."
Rosalinda Mendez:So yeah, I mean, literally, the thing is, is that I'm like, I mean, it just it goes like it's like a firecracker like literally, they end up fighting in a room. There's like all kinds of things said, and yeah, in the end, you know, it was basically like,"oh, she got her legs amputated? Maybe she should drank some water."
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, I didn't realize water had such a healing effect.
Rosalinda Mendez:I know, I, I assume that you know Jen's...Jen's aunt was a diabetic.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:And I do understand that there's like some water issues there but I don't think that's like the full story. I don't think we should be telling people that if you know you might get your legs amputated that drinking water may just save you.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I mean it. Yeah. Well, maybe we're thinking the wrong water. Can Mary drop her water source?
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, exactly. Because obviously it is like it's something close to Lourdes apparently.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah. Its some like holy water. I mean, like those same people who are like, "oh, what's your skincare routine?" and it's like, "oh, I drink water." It's like, well, okay. So does everybody else.
Rosalinda Mendez:Bernadette Soubirous water.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Like, okay...
Rosalinda Mendez:Thank you, Holy Virgin Mother for your water.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:And my beautiful skin, and my, like, not losing my two legs.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:I think like, that's genetics at the end of the day.
Rosalinda Mendez:At the end of the day, yeah, there's a lot mor going on. But anyway, so that ind of wraps up the first e
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, Salt. Salt Lake City.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah, and we are looking forward to taking this journey.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:With ya'll, yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez:Maybe we'll find out more about the water.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, hopefully
Rosalinda Mendez:Maybe we'll find out why. You know, inquiring minds want to know, why did Mary have her like odor glands taken away?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:Yeah, and why did it take 30 days.
Rosalinda Mendez:Exactly, and why doesn't you know, why doesn't Lisa's husband pay for a professional florist?
Sara Van Tuerenhout:There's, you know, Meredith's husband you're already getting them confused
Rosalinda Mendez:I hate it. They look alike. Like they should never get two people wh look alike
Sara Van Tuerenhout:At least they don't have the same like, starting letter. You know, it was like Lisa and Luanne or something, you know.
Rosalinda Mendez:Yeah.
Sara Van Tuerenhout:But yeah no, I'm looking forward to this journey.
Rosalinda Mendez:Maybe we'll find out why Lisa
Sara Van Tuerenhout:*interjects Has a stic
Rosalinda Mendez:No, no well she does have that. I really ant to know why her children ne d grit and
Sara Van Tuerenhout:True. Well thank you so much for listenin this far into our ramblings, i you wouldn't mind drop a like r review in the podcast ap, wherever you're listening o this, and I guess we'll see y u on the next on
Rosalinda Mendez:Alright, see ya!